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Post by Unruler on Mar 22, 2016 12:43:39 GMT
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Post by meeklosh on Mar 22, 2016 22:48:31 GMT
It sure will. Got a chance to play draft and ban something. Pretty interesting I have to say. Feels like I'm in a tournament Can't wait to team up with you guys on skype. Tychus got pretty strong, but little boring to play imo. Mostly just standing in one place shooting people with the new trait. On the other hand, Dehaka, the new hero, is a bit difficult to play with no true escape while you are slow also. Lack of mobility. 40 second cooldown on his Z until lvl 20 when he gets an upgrade. Very similar in style to Diablo. Can be a tank or a ganker/bruiser.
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Post by lorgi on Mar 23, 2016 1:29:52 GMT
seen some good Dehaka plays, definitely a lot of potential (will prolly be useful, global presence is extremely valuable) love the new Tychus; with the old one you also had to stay put, but now you wreck face (also, drill is quite strong now) LOVE new Gazlord! enough said new Ilidan is much more fun, but he's not my cup of tea KT is also fun, but I still won't play him (but Aferes should be happy with the changes - at the very least he's an interesting hero now) no idea about Sylv, could be decent, but I'm under impression that the old one was stronger...but Mind Control is a lot of fun, be sure to try it out XD when it comes to drafting, most of all I like the new interface, really nice visual polish all over the game
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Post by Aferes on Mar 26, 2016 5:44:14 GMT
Dehaka has its place, high skill cap but rewarding.Not tier 1 but tier 2.(no escape meek but insane Health regen with his D, its like dominance for li ming if you get the 150% essence on takedowns.)
The new UI is amazing, we HAVE to start playing again as 5 some team league(we will feel like pros, like meek said hehe)
Illidan, KT and Tychus pretty broken. Sylvanas is tier 1 now, mind control is such a broken ult. You can pop it with will of the forsaken and completly put the enemy healer out of position leading to a won teamfight. Especially impactful in the late game, where death timers are longer and matter. Also butchers chain ult now silcences, and his lvl 20 upgrade is pretty much a moshpit. Just something to consider now.
Gazlowe no comment.......
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Post by lorgi on Mar 26, 2016 16:48:51 GMT
nice Sylv combo, didn't think of that (still it would require you to get quite close to him, and you'll be immobilised so good coordination on opposing team could at least force a trade on you)...anw interesting, we'll see how it goes (if you're out of position and in range of MC, you're just dead though ) and seriously, I think Gazlord will be good (very good with a bit of setup - VP,Maw...)
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Post by hrglug on Apr 4, 2016 16:31:46 GMT
Yeah, I've seen a few REALLY nice Sylvanas Mind Control plays, it can be very effective.
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Post by Unruler on Apr 5, 2016 20:59:09 GMT
I've to admit that reworks largely were a failure and didn't improve hero's viability like they were meant to.
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Post by hrglug on Apr 6, 2016 14:25:27 GMT
I'm really sad to not be able to do Double Bombs with Kael'Thas anymore...
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Post by lorgi on Apr 6, 2016 16:59:38 GMT
I strongly disagree with that, but whatever
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Post by Unruler on Apr 7, 2016 10:42:17 GMT
I strongly disagree with that, but whatever I've seen the post on reddit about tychus the other day, complaining that the hero is still weak after rework and rework in fact decreased his build diversity. KT is definitely is nerfed to all hell and not even t1 anymore. Wouldn't say that gazlowe is much stronger, not like they could make him any weaker though, but nobody cares about him anyway. Illidan maybe improved but not massively and it's not like he was that weak, just unfit for meta. Same for Sylvanas, MC feels gimmicky, arrow is so much easier to use.
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Post by lorgi on Apr 9, 2016 0:13:32 GMT
you've seen it on the internet, so it must be true
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Post by Unruler on Apr 9, 2016 2:42:20 GMT
It's an opinion of majority, so it must be worth something. It's not like any of those heroes jumped in their winrate like Reghar did. And even though I personally didn't like his rework, I wouldn't argue that it made him stronger and at some point borderline OP.
This rework, not so much OP.
You can check out the post if you didn't see it: https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/4df4ur/why_tychus_is_still_weak_and_he_will_never_be/
Guy makes good reasoning of why Tychus is bad, and he plays nothing but Tychus, he's 20 lvl, so probably more than both of us do.
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Post by lorgi on Apr 9, 2016 19:14:58 GMT
just some thoughts on the post: dude doesn't know how to stutter-step on Tychus; C9 Fan made a video on that back in the day and it's still true overkill is the ability with the most dmg in the whole game, don't see anything wrong with that, the idea is not to use it what it's dps loss if you're going auto-attacks I guarrantee that when you charge on a target with Overkill with 2 tanks plowing the way for you, that guy can just pray for his support to save his ass also, now he doesn't have a plethora of AA talents, he can pick max 2 which encourages you to go in the other direction
his main problem is 0 flexibility and that's why he'll never be used, other heroes simply offer more benefits overall than brutal dmg output he provides (and when it comes to brutal dmg, Greymane beats him at that)
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Post by Unruler on Apr 10, 2016 12:30:07 GMT
The point is that they've tried to create unique and viable hero with this rework but failed.
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Post by lorgi on Apr 11, 2016 0:40:23 GMT
who cares as long as Illidan is op and KT is bugged so he can single-handedly destroy the whole game
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Post by Unruler on Apr 11, 2016 7:32:31 GMT
Is Illidan really that op though? I see people play him more just like in beta.
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Post by lorgi on Apr 11, 2016 18:14:45 GMT
in competitive he's insta-ban, so he must be OP I played him in a few HL games, 100% winrate so far, feels crazy good most players still have no idea how to use him though, and that'll bring down his winrates
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Post by Unruler on Apr 11, 2016 18:54:44 GMT
And how to use him? XD
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Post by Aferes on Apr 15, 2016 4:35:06 GMT
I have played Illidan and you cant do anything to me unless there is an excess of stuns. Most of the time you can take out valla or falstad that squishy assassin so easy. And due to the nature of HL, lack of focus you can get away with so many things. So yes he is good/op
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Post by Unruler on Apr 15, 2016 6:47:51 GMT
What did they change that made him so good though? He used to have bunch of protection talents that he doesn't have now.
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