Unruler
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Post by Unruler on May 23, 2014 15:05:31 GMT
This situation is an INSULT not only to Colly but to a community as a whole. We should make sure that it will not go without a consequence.
Here's my proposition: demand public apology and return of accounts from Wulven or we, as a guild (and people who decide to join us), will quit the game and demand monetary compensation for all crystals saved on our accounts.
I know, it's easy to propose such things for me, as I don't have much to lose, but this is an only way we could threaten Wulven.
Afterall, it's not that hard to track where crystals were generated and to which accounts they were moved, it's just sloppy investigation work by Wulven and desire not to admit their own mistakes. And that is very much in Kyle's spirit.
I agree that this time we should not let this go and organize the campaign to defend our interests as a community.
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yotenka
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Post by yotenka on May 23, 2014 15:48:13 GMT
OUTRAGEOUS!!
Brothers, they could do this to anyone, this is just a precedent.
This simply means that Wulven has NO MEANS to properly investigate, let alone find the true source of the hack.
The game itself is not free from hacking, any OL game is not, however we as paying customers to the game deserve protection from incidents such as this. The studio itself should provide us with an ample safety measure for such predicaments.
In Colosals case, the studio itself condemns.
This is the state of our security when it comes to the game and in the SE community as well.
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Post by Karlos4 on May 23, 2014 15:51:58 GMT
Man, I so sorry for you Colly!! I didn't know that it was this bad. I think if we threaten to quit the game as a guild we could move a lot. A SE community without BP seems unthinkable!
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mightyoak
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Post by mightyoak on May 23, 2014 15:53:15 GMT
There are PR ways to handle wulven and kyle. They have facebook. But I agree unruler. This cannot be taken as a poke. This is a shove in the dirt. @colosal you have my support my friend. I will help. Ive tolerated slow progress. Worry on my product and money. But none of that compares to losing a guild mate such as yourself. When I joined BP there wasnt much activity. But a couple of people ( you know who you are ) where there to guide me in and are very helpful. I refuse to sit for this. Its too much. Too odd with timing. Too lazy on their part.
Like a tourney/ pop up...im IN!!
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Post by maximont on May 23, 2014 15:53:56 GMT
This is a sad saga all round, try to hang in there Colly, we can still hope a better outcome can be reached.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2014 15:54:21 GMT
This situation is an INSULT not only to Colly but to a community as a whole. We should make sure that it will not go without a consequence. Here's my proposition: demand public apology and return of accounts from Wulven or we, as a guild (and people who decide to join us), will quit the game and demand monetary compensation for all crystals saved on our accounts. I know, it's easy to propose such things for me, as I don't have much to lose, but this is an only way we could threaten Wulven. Afterall, it's not that hard to track where crystals were generated and to which accounts they were moved, it's just sloppy investigation work by Wulven and desire not to admit their own mistakes. And that is very much in Kyle's spirit. I agree that this time we should not let this go and organize the campaign to defend our interests as a community. KA already did this some seasons ago and they really left the game but Wulven has that base of 4 million casual players that makes them feel unbeatable.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2014 15:56:37 GMT
i have left all my ranks in BP so this guild won't be associated with this. I won't be able to read anything outside public section until i decide to delete this account.
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AAA
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Post by AAA on May 23, 2014 15:59:28 GMT
I think the most stupid thing about this is that it's also Wulven's fault for having such a wack security. If the cheater had been caught early then it would've gone to this. Wulven had the most power to do that, but they didn't deliver in that regard.
Colly you are an unfortunate victim, and I don't give a shit about Wulven. Boycott that fucking game for all I care. You are one of the best people I have ever met and I know how highly you value your virtues to have even done whatever it is you are accused of. We're here for you buddy.
we have some lawyers in the guild. I suggest you discuss with them, because you will not be the fall guy. Never.
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yotenka
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Post by yotenka on May 23, 2014 16:18:16 GMT
Emails could be traced, a transfer of SC crystal if im not mistaken could only be done through Wulven servers and their approval like what we do when we have request transfers for crystals.
A massive amount of crystal transfer in itself is a red flag!
As i have said, the timing is uncanny for it to be a coincidence.
I state my claim this is not coincidence, this is a circumstance.
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Post by ludwig72 on May 23, 2014 16:18:44 GMT
Nooooooooooo!!!!! Collywig you can't go. I know it's crappy but u can't go. This is so unfair.
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Unruler
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Post by Unruler on May 23, 2014 16:27:22 GMT
This situation is an INSULT not only to Colly but to a community as a whole. We should make sure that it will not go without a consequence. Here's my proposition: demand public apology and return of accounts from Wulven or we, as a guild (and people who decide to join us), will quit the game and demand monetary compensation for all crystals saved on our accounts. I know, it's easy to propose such things for me, as I don't have much to lose, but this is an only way we could threaten Wulven. Afterall, it's not that hard to track where crystals were generated and to which accounts they were moved, it's just sloppy investigation work by Wulven and desire not to admit their own mistakes. And that is very much in Kyle's spirit. I agree that this time we should not let this go and organize the campaign to defend our interests as a community. KA already did this some seasons ago and they really left the game but Wulven has that base of 4 million casual players that makes them feel unbeatable. 4 million? Where did that number came from? That's quite a lot of people and considering game's development progress, I wouldn't say business goes all that well. Anyhow, don't jump the gun just for now, that still could be just misunderstanding. But if Wulven persists on their position, then more serious measures should be made. Btw, is GDC around? Maybe try contacting him?
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Bobbypim
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Post by Bobbypim on May 23, 2014 16:28:10 GMT
This is actually some serious stuff and the guardians are at full work trying to sort this out! Let's hope it doesn't take a lot of Wulven time before we have some answers/solutions!
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Post by JTL on May 23, 2014 17:30:39 GMT
I don't even know what to say. I'm completely at a loss for words. This is beyond ridiculous. I sincerely hope it gets straightened out, ideally so that Colly can stick around and still enjoy the game and BP, but at the very least, to clear his name and reputation. My deepest apologies and most sincere wishes. This shouldn't happen.
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Post by TuhlSadum on May 23, 2014 17:52:36 GMT
Colossal is the soul of the BPh, loss would be a disaster,as friend and master there is no one better.
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Post by Direwulven on May 23, 2014 18:14:09 GMT
Colossal is the soul of the BPh, loss would be a disaster,as friend and master there is no one better. We need to respect his final decision whatever it is. The mantle of BPh would have to be shouldered by all of us. It is important that BPh lives on!!!
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meeklosh
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Post by meeklosh on May 23, 2014 18:14:36 GMT
Terrible day for BP and SE in general. One of the most active and contributing man was banned due to lack of security, skills and tools. But all we need to do now is stay calm and have fate in justice, because we know that our friend and brother is innocent. Do not make any premature accusations (all through someone already did) before anything is settled down. We had some dark days in the past but have stand still and raised even stronger, that's why we need to stay unite once again and together nothing is going to break us. Colly, we are all in your debts for everything you've done so far, and without you everything won't be the same. I can only image how mad and disappointed you are right now, I know you act on impulse, but you know really good that this forum is beyond SE and Wulven... you were always a fighter, you wanna quit just nowt like that? Let the inequity win? I beg you to reconsider, we all are going to suffer if u leave BP... who is going to take care of the spanish section? Who is going to troll, kick people? Who is going to tell me now that I suck You are a big big link in BP's mechanism, you live and everything will collapse...
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Peter
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Post by Peter on May 23, 2014 18:15:29 GMT
I don't understand.
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Post by Kraken on May 23, 2014 18:17:12 GMT
Hmm, as if last night at work wasn't bad enough.....All I can say is I don't want to see you go Colly! This sucks bad! I can't think of what really to say other then what I've said before. .....
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2014 18:56:22 GMT
I don't understand. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk You dont understand what happened? kyle says that my alt account was used to transfer illegal crystals to other accounts and that i hacked the IAP or Iac i dont even remember or know what that is. That i'm a hacker and i should be grateful that he is not telling on me with authorities about online fraud. Because of that accusations my forum and game accounts are banned and all accounts related to my ip or that got crystal transfer from me.
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Post by Fedon on May 23, 2014 18:58:16 GMT
I agree with the comments posted here and I can only say that I feel powerless over as great injustice. I just hope that fast and urgent measures are taken to deal with this nightmare that I can not conceive SE without Coly.
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